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  • in reply to: Frusterated – how picky is too picky? #88568
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    Thanks so much for all the lengthy replies. This has been really helpful.

    My teacher gives me exersizes to work on my handposition, fingering, ect. LOTS of scales, ect. So that’s good.

    Trouble spots – how do you go about working on those? You said

    in reply to: students and their choices #88669
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    Well honestly Saul, it does sound as though your natural ability made
    your development unique. To teach well we need to have a good plan
    to fill in every small step along the way, but be willing to modify
    this plan to match the natural flow of each individual learner. Most
    students do not develop
    continually at the same rate. They have intellectual growth spurts,
    just like physical growth spurts. There has been some research to
    assist students with learning disabilities, but very little research
    and support for gifted students. That is starting to change. In the
    past there have been far too many instances of gifted students getting
    beaten down to be normal.

    In the
    field of education the term gifted applies to natural ability and talent refers
    to a learned ability. A gifted student has some capacity to self
    teach, and can absorb multiple steps simultaneously. This make teaching
    them effectively as challenging as teaching the learning disabled
    student, but for opposite reasons. Both
    require tailoring the curriculum to best fit their atypical learning
    needs. It takes wisdom and judgment, and the process is never perfect. Attentive awareness of the student
    can clue us in to the correct pacing. The most important thing is to
    respect each student’s individuality, allowing them to feel it is okay to progress at their natural pace, and be whoever they really are.

    in reply to: Frusterated – how picky is too picky? #88566
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    Well, it seems to me the problem is a bit obvious. You are expecting too much progress for the relatively small amount of time you are practicing. If you are really serious, I think you will eliminate some of your other commitments so you can spend at least two-and-a-half hours a day with the harp. Then I think you will find your fingers will land on the right notes and your memory bank will grow. Not to scare you, but the harp simply needs more time and attention from you to develop as you wish. Do choose pieces you want to perform. There are plenty that will develop your technique and musicianship, especially if you use exercises profitably. Five songs-I mean pieces-is quite a few to do at the same time. Three are enough, with half-an-hour on exercises. I suggest something like one Dussek Sonatina, Pavane from Solos for the Harp Player or one of the Rameau or Corelli pieces, and something by Handel or Salzedo; or Grandjany’s Frere Jacques.

    in reply to: lever vs. pedal for neophyte #88630
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    As Oliver Hardy might say, “you certainly can!” I would check the resale value carefully on the Prelude. If you lose a thousand dollars between buying it and selling it a year later, you could just rent one, no? If you’re going into debt anyway, why not go whole hog? But then, it’s your money.

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88621
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    Wow Calista, what a good idea! I did not think of this. That is a very diplomatic way of approaching such a scenario. Thank you.

    in reply to: Frusterated – how picky is too picky? #88564
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    Hi Carla, I’m sorry you are feeling discouraged. You did mention that
    your teacher is one of the best players in your area. I have studied music with
    many teachers, and have generally found that it is healthy and useful
    to adapt to the teacher’s style as much as possible, and when teaching
    to adapt to the student’s learning style as much as possible. “When is
    a piece finished?” This is a difficult question to answer, but if your
    teacher is giving you good information, take what he/she has to offer.
    Two ideas come to mind that might alleviate some frustration: first, it
    would be useful to play pieces of varying levels, so that everything is
    not challenging you to the extreme. Always have at least one or two
    pieces that are a focused challenge, then some that are a moderate
    challenge, and finally, some that are relaxing. This way you can start
    your lesson with the easier pieces to warm up. A second idea is to make
    a recording of yourself practicing, so you can let your teacher hear
    when you are able to play your best. The majority of students,
    including me, have felt some frustration at playing a little below
    their potential at lessons. I used to ride the train three hours into Chicago for
    lessons and felt stiff and nervous, put my whole heart
    into it, but always felt a little disappointed in my performance. Such
    is life, never a perfect process.

    When you have a technically superb teacher, the only reason I would
    suggest switching is if there is a negative emotional dynamic that
    cannot resolve because this can burden the learning process. If you can
    honestly say your teacher wants the best for you and is expert in
    playing, then I would suggest doing what you can to adapt to his/her
    method of teaching because it is thought out, and you have not been
    able to see the whole picture until years of experience. You sound so
    dedicated, and I deeply hope you will find encouragement. btw you
    should certainly plan to perform all the pieces you work hard on. There
    is no reason not to set a goal of a solo recital to play at a school or
    church by the time you graduate high school. It will give more meaning
    to your efforts! Good luck!!

    in reply to: lever vs. pedal for neophyte #88629
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    Saul,

    thanks for responding.

    in reply to: Music Maker’s Voyageur Harp #68845
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    I have no experience with the Voyageur but I do have experience with Musicmaker.

    in reply to: lever vs. pedal for neophyte #88628
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    If you are looking at buying a full-size lever harp or pedal harp, since a lever harp is as much as 50% of a small pedal harp, I don’t think they are worth it if you want the range and flexibility of a pedal harp. If you can get a lever harp for under $2,000 then it is reasonable, but if you’re spending $5,000, why not go for 9 or 10 thousand and get pedals? It’s kind of like spending on a fancy bike or buying a car, except it’s not. But then, what do you want from it? For a child who wants to spend their life playing, it makes more sense to invest in a harp that will always be useful such as a smaller pedal harp, than a lever harp they will outgrow musically in two or three years, if they want to play classically or commercially. I am not putting down lever harps, so please don’t be riled up.

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    I don’t know of any specific articles on harp and health, but there are a lot of suggestions and problems here and there in the forums. I’m not aware of any health problems except physical injuries and conditions, or emotionally induced states.

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    Oops, I needed to add — I am a beginner on harp, and don’t know

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    I used PrintMusic in my college music theory classes, and liked it very much. It is sort of a “baby” version of Finale, and since it didn’t have as many features as Finale, it was a lot less expensive. (although it looks like the price has gone up). It was also NOT overwhelming to learn how to do what I needed to do.

    http://www.finalemusic.com/store/productoverview.aspx

    There is also a product that Finale makes called NotePad, which is free. (Free is good). You might want to try that out first, to see if it will meet your needs.

    Shannon

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88617
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    I’ve decided how to handle this particular scenario. It is clear that
    my student intends to continue teaching. I felt encouraged this week
    with her hand position, but it will take more time for her to be
    consistent. At least she has a desire to play correctly, so she can
    pass that on to her student. Since we are in a city, I will direct both
    her and her student to workshops and other presentations with expert
    harpists.

    It is important to say for anyone reading, that it does require
    experience to teach beginners. Even though you do not deal with
    musically complex issues regarding formal structure and stylistic
    analysis, teaching beginners requires expert knowlege of the structure
    and movement of the hand and learning styles. You are faced with many problems when a student struggles to
    learn a concept. When communicating any information about technique it
    is important to be able to explain why it is healthy to maintain a
    certain hand position, thumb position, play relaxed,
    which muscles are used, which ones are not, etc. Every hand is
    different, so a deep understanding of the principles of healthy playing
    are necessary to apply it to each student’s specific hand structure.

    I have had many transfer students from inexperienced/self taught
    teachers, come to me with tangled, tense, little fingers, which takes
    much effort to help them untangle. Informed
    guidance is important on all instruments, but especially harp
    because
    it requires the development and strenghtening of certain muscles. I
    have a doctoral minor in piano pedagogy and a masters in harp. On piano
    there are certainly
    important, efficient ways of playing, but as long as you stay relaxed
    and let gravity do much of the work, you aren’t going to get injured.
    This is not the case with harp. It requires more tension to initially
    pluck a string, it requires a learned hand position, and much care in
    establishing correct posture while balancing the instrument correctly.
    Minimizing
    tension is a much bigger deal on harp, and the potential for physical
    damage is greater. Anyone considering teaching harp please understand
    that even though the concepts of half notes, quarter notes, and middle
    C seem simplistic, the learning process is not.

    in reply to: Dry, splitting, cracking, bleeding finger tips #157828
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    I go along with Meg and her Super Glue remedy.

    in reply to: Placing in sequence #87366
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    I have good news. After many years of frustrating searches for a
    solution to playing the fugue in Bartok’s Concerto for Orchestra,
    Lucile Lawrence found the elegant, simple solution. You can exchange
    notes between the right hand and left hand so instead of reaching up
    for a thumb note, you reach down for a note from the left hand, which
    easily takes a right hand note. You will soon see where this helps, in
    more than one spot. It makes it smooth and relatively easy. She also
    taught playing with placing one note ahead, especially in passages like
    this, and called “like walking on eggshells.” But she used placing
    ahead very creatively to create phrasing and illustrates notes that
    belong to each other by placing them together.

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