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  • in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88616
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    I will post some more information about how it develops. I’m
    approaching it by placing myself in my student’s shoes as best I can.
    To view it this way I will use an example of a hobby I posses in which
    I have no formal training and am not aware of harm I could cause others
    by sharing it. I love to work with beads and make jewelry and do
    produce results that I love. If I were using materials that contain
    harmful substances like lead, or toxic clays and didn’t know how to
    properly handle these, and was passing this bad information on to
    others I would want to know. If I was taking a class from someone very
    experienced and told them I was teaching, and they knew that I was
    causing a problem, it would upset me if they didn’t share that
    information with me. They would be allowing me to ruin my potential
    credibility. If after more training I had the potential to do a good
    job instructing others, but had established a reputation for giving bad
    information, that doesn’t help me at all.

    What would hurt my student is if I look down on her in my thoughts and
    manner of communication, which I do not. I respect her very much. Her
    conscientiousness in her own practice tells me that she likes to do
    well at whatever she does. I will not be glib about talking to her
    because she is too important and her feelings in both the short and
    long term are too important.

    in reply to: what you do if you are in my situation???? #88713
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    It sounds like your dma is equivalent to our masters degree. It is hard
    to transfer credits between schools. Our DMA programs may be three
    years of coursework, but there are dissertations and final projects
    that can take several more years to complete. We also have professional
    studies programs and diplomas which are graduate or post-graduate
    studies, but only in performance and little or no coursework.

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88613
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    Gordon, thank you for your concern. The issue at hand is “what is the
    most respectful way to treat people?” Do you allow someone to
    unknowingly pass on habits that could cause physical damage? Do you
    withhold information from people because you assume they are too fragile
    or lack the capacity to cope with it? Do you attack one person emotionally to spare another,
    or do you promote good communication with good faith of mutual respect?

    If correct technique served no other purpose than to establish elitism,
    then imposing it on others would be wasteful and foolish. Correct
    technique is information on how to play an instrument in an efficient
    and healthy manner, to avoid the crippling effects of tendonitis,
    carpal tunnel syndrome, fatigue, and back and neck aches. These
    effects are quite common to those who spend consistent time practicing
    incorrectly.

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88612
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    Wait a minute.

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88611
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    Hi Shannon,

    Thank you for your posts. I have no intention of pressuring anyone to
    do anything. I’m still thinking through how to address it. I’m thinking
    of sharing my appreciation for my student’s hard work and her innate
    musical ability,

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88610
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    I would like to add a PS. I apologize in advance

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88609
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    If your student is teaching bad habits to her student, then I do agree that you have a responsibility to set her straight. I am worried a little about the

    in reply to: what you do if you are in my situation???? #88712
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    Doctor of Musical Arts degrees are offered in the U.S. as well. Here
    you have a four years bachelor degree, a two year master’s, then a
    three year DMA or Ph.D. (or a bachelor’s to a five year doctorate) It
    is considered equivalent to a Ph.D, but focuses more on original
    creative expression, and less on research. People teach at the
    college/univeristy level with a master’s degree, but the doctorate is
    becoming necessary to be competative. (no guarantees, though). I have a
    master’s in harp and a degrees through a DMA in composition.

    There are some very complex dynamics in our profession. The potential
    for accolades and the element of subjectivity can create political
    tension. I live in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, U.S. and love it here.
    I spent three years in a somewhat rural area prior to this. As an
    outsider with strong credentials, I was not welcome except for
    exploitation. I played in the local symphony and the conductor paid me
    below the bottom of his payscale ($15 per service which as $5 less than
    the amateur musician members received). When I got my paycheck before
    the concert all performance anxiety left because I knew whatever
    happened, he got more than he paid for. I ended up nailing every
    entrance because I was so relaxed. Still, it’s personally rewarding to play well. He also made nasty faces at me. I had
    nothing in writing (my mistake), so I
    resigned. He also announced the presence of my harp in the department
    as though the college sort of owned it. The
    entire area functioned this way. In these scenarios the goal is
    to demorilize anyone who poses a real or imagined threat so they will
    either allow themselves to be exploited or simply quit altogether. We
    have limited energy and resources,
    and I feel it is not worth fighting a battle unless it can be won. The
    world is a big place, and our lives are short, so it is better to
    conserve energy, and find the best scenario to work with, and be
    flexibile and willing to adapt as needed to survive.

    in reply to: what you do if you are in my situation???? #88711
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    i am inquiring if , some of you faced such a problem when started to build up his proffesion?????? if he or she were faced by a strong bad propoganda, if they talk about you that you are not qualified and you cant teach at all????????????

    in reply to: what you do if you are in my situation???? #88710
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    mr davis hello , you are right, i must to leave the country, but its something horrible to get visa to the states specially to people from the middle east, even i am christian and harpist, i want to study a little more to develope my techinc, i have my own russian school and i like it, and there i got degree of doctorate of musical arts DMA in russia you get it after finishing the conservatory of 5 years then study in the DMA for 2 academic years, its different from the PH.D.. I DONT know what is the system in USA and if they accept the russian diploms. i preffere to build up my proffesion in my country and to travel every year abroad to do master class with deffirent teachers from deffirent schools, but now i feel that i was a naiive dreamer, such a things will never happen in our countries , maybe in swiss

    in reply to: What do you wear for gigs? #149157
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    Since it is safer to be overdressed than underdressed for most
    occassions, I tend towards dressy but comfortable. I have a rather
    extensive black wardrobe, but I prefer to add in a little color with it
    like burgundy, white, or a print that blends in with
    black.

    in reply to: Help!!!! NEED A HARP IN WASHINGTON DC THE 24TH!!! #88715
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    Maybe Heidi could help you out if you can pick up from Fredericksburg
    and back. Or try Wendy Willis? Barbara Seidman? Don’t know anyone else.

    in reply to: When a student is teaching before they are ready #88604
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    The desire to be helpful and positive is good and important, but when
    it prevents truth from being told, it is not so good. It can be
    weakening. You have the right to tell your student she is not qualified
    to teach beyond “a certain level.” You can express the hope that as her
    student progresses she will encourage her to move on to an experienced
    teacher. Sometimes we have to be cold. I had a prospective student play
    for me whose agenda was to be told she was or could be professional.
    She played fairly well, but with no sense of rhythm at all, so I
    swallowed and told her no. We work very hard to be professionals, and
    it is an insult to compare yourself to us if you haven’t worked for it.
    Not that everyone has to be as good as the rest. She never came back,
    but I did what I am sure was right. I could have pandered to her, and
    pretended to agree so she would come back, but that wouldn’t have been
    honest of me. Yes we have to be careful about judging people, but it is
    upon us to set and maintain at least minimum standards, like playing in
    rhythm, with tempo control, dynamic range, reasonable tone quality and
    volume, reasonable facility, and musical understanding. Salzedo and
    some pupils tried a licensing setup at one time, but it didn’t take
    hold, needless to say. We could establish minimum standards, like being
    able to play the Taco Bell Cannon, or Grandjany’s Automne or something.
    But this is a democracy, so that won’t happen. Since it is a free
    market, you are free to say what you want.

    in reply to: what you do if you are in my situation???? #88709
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    Leaving your country may seem like a drastic choice, but in a small
    country it may be necessary. In our large country, we frequently have
    to leave our home city or state to study or be professional, and
    sometimes move again. It may not be as difficult as you think. But even
    here, it helps if go to school in the new city, or have a job there, or
    a friend who will help you get established. I suggest further study, an
    advanced degree. There are some schools that give scholarships. I also
    suggest you look at the many websites of harpists in the U.S. and look
    at how they write about themselves, their careers and goals. It will
    help in contacting people.

    in reply to: Repertoire for recitals #144762
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    Perhaps unfortunately, I feel the need to respond to the last post.
    When I started as a harpist, I listened to all the harp music
    available, which was mostly French romantic-period music, especially
    recordings by Susann McDonald. I listened to Renie, Tournier,
    Godefroid, Hasselmans, and so on. I heard no pieces more often than
    Grandjany’s Le Bon Petit Roi de Yvetot and Children’s Hour Suite.

    There were little or no recordings of Salzedo’s music available, and
    what I heard of his own playing was not that seductive. The recording
    that convinced me the harp was worthwhile was Annie Challan’s recording
    of Debussy, Ravel, Pierne and Faure. My interest in Salzedo developed
    gradually, and it was the depth and beauty of his compositions that won
    me over. To think that I am prejudiced is to not know me at all. Liszt
    composed some great music and a lot of shallow music. I enjoy some of
    Liszt’s showy music, and some of it is too empty to tolerate. I cannot
    stand Parish-Alvars’s music because it is all empty. Or at least every
    performance I have heard has been empty. His music sounds more like
    inflated Stephen Foster than anything else. I would rather hear Bochsa.
    His expansion of harp technique is not enough to make his music
    interesting, unlike Spohr. My feeling has nothing to do whatsoever with
    my liking Salzedo’s music. To compare his music to Parish-Alvars is
    true on the surface, in that they were both performer-composers with a
    lot of technique, but Salzedo’s music does indeed have depth and
    significance, to varying degrees like any composer, whether its modern
    styling is to your taste or not. His Sonata for Harp and Piano is a
    masterpiece, along with his Trois Poemes de Mallarme, Pentacle, Five
    Poetical Studies and other works not so often played. Scintillation
    varies greatly depending on the performer. I find lots of depth in it,
    and think it is as fine as Saint-Saens’s fantaisies. But I have heard
    mediocre, and empty performances of it as well. Overexposure can
    certainly detract from the pleasure in a piece, so we do all need to
    explore our repertoire and program thoughtfully as Sam Milligan
    suggests. What is it some music is so full of, and other music so
    lacking in? Inspiration? Genius? Talent? Originality? Soul? Musicality?
    I think the last is the most significant. Just because someone composes
    music, does not mean they are musical. Carter, Boulez, Berio are icons
    of contemporary music, but Berio is the only one I find at all musical.
    So what is musical? Using more than just one’s head; having spirit,
    heart and soul in your music, instinct and intuition, not just
    intellect alone.

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