wire harps and levers

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    wil-weten on #223574

    I’m just curious. What do you think about putting levers on wire harps? Yes, I know, they are traditionally built without levers and levers would shorten the life of a wire (though I wonder whether there are some kind of levers that would be really suitable for wire harps).

    I know that some people have put Peter Brough levers on a wire harp. What are your experiences with these kind of levers on a wire harp?

    Unfortunately, these levers are not being manufactured any more, so I wonder whether the modern (metal) Camac levers would do as well.

    Please, share your ideas and insights on this matter.

    Edit: I also wonder about Teifi levers, as they are not so very large as the camac levers.

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    wil-weten on #223751

    Who’d like to shine his or her light on this?

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    Biagio on #223752

    The “issue” would be having to use bridge pins to keep the strings at a correct distance from the lever. I know that Glenn Hill has used Lovelands and claims there have been no problems. Cunningham and Caswell have used bridge pins on some of theirs, and so presumably left room for levers, though I don’t know with what success.

    Strings are closest to the breaking point in the treble so I’d not advise putting levers or blades up there even if you have them lower down. Often, in fact there is not enough room up there.

    Personally I don’t see much use for levers on a wire harp since you will not be flipping them in the middle of a piece (probably!). I do have blades on one of mine, but that is because I tune that one to Cmaj and am too lazy to retune if the piece calls for a different key. Usually I just transpose.

    I just sent some blades to a friend who wanted them since she often plays with a group and does not like telling them to “Wait a sec while I retune to this key.”

    Still, if you have a wire harp with bridge pins, it would not hurt (much) to try. I think that Universal levers might be a better way to go than Camacs, Truitts or Lovelands. Cheaper too.

    Biagio

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    Tacye on #223760

    I haven’t tried it, but it seems to me that a lever which isn’t too sensitive to the exact height of the string from the neck should (like blades) be able to work without bridge pins. Perhaps Pilgrim’s cam levers would be worth trying for this as they dcontact the string sideways relative to the neck.

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    Biagio on #223761

    I agree Tacye, if the strings are wound carefully around the tuning pegs. That is not too difficult, just finicky. I don’t particularly like Lovelands in any case; for a wire string the tolerances are too tight in some ranges for my taste.

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    wil-weten on #223977

    Thanks Biagio and Tacye for your kind information.

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    andy-b on #223979

    Just as an example, Triplett uses blade levers with no bridge pins for their wire harps. You can see them on their website.

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