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    My husband majored in music, spent a few years touring with a brass quintet, (yes, I am another harpist married to a trumpet player), then decided to switch careers. He took one year to get his teacher’s diploma, and, with his music background, immediately got a job teaching elementary band. After a number of years, he became vice-principal, went back and got his Master’s and now is a principal. He plays his trumpet for fun and a little extra money. I have a friend who got his degree in engineering, then got a symphony position as soon as he graduated. Another friend got his degree in Music Education, then got a job playing French horn in one of the best orchestras in the world. This all goes to show that there is more than one path to success. Whatever you don’t learn in school, you can learn later, but it is certainly easier to do it while you’re young and unburdened by other concerns such as laundry, children and groceries.

    #87351
    unknown-user
    Participant

    I started gigging while working, and have supported myself solely through performance since I was 24.

    Hi Diane,

    That is actually a remarkable accomplishment. It would be helpful to
    others if you could share some of your specifics about how you
    succeeded. I have a number of peers with doctorates in performance
    and/or composition who have amazing skill, chops, and so much to
    contribute, but have not been able to support themselves entirely
    through gigging. It would be wonderful if opportunities were there for
    those individuals who were diligent, know their musicology and theory
    like the back of their hand, and can perform with technical precision
    and heartfelt expression. I have not been able to support myself, but
    am fortunate to be married to a programmer. Here are a few profiles, I
    have laid out as case studies (insignificant details changed) that
    represent
    my peers. Any information you can provide to describe how you arrived
    at
    consistent success would be helpful to an entire generation of gifted
    individuals who have a tremendous amount to offer the world.

    1. DMA, MM

    #87352

    I used to make my living full-time performing, but began a business with my husband and the harp took to the backseat. We moved to Virginia a few years ago looking to get away from the fast pace of L.A. and haven’t looked back. I am back playing my harp, teaching and performing as much as I can/want and love playing more than ever.

    We are near a college town with a population of around 70,000 (peak season) and there is only one other professional harpist here. Her story is amazing, and we could all learn a lesson from her! She did not MAJOR IN MUSIC but had a child to support so she TAUGHT HERSELF how to play. She began to sing and tell stories with her Celtic harp, she played for weddings, etc. and managed to make a living. She eventually got herself on our State Council for the Arts list and became artist in residence in many schools statewide playing her harp and being her charming self.

    She became the first CMP and virtually brought therapeutic harp music to our University Hospital. She plays for weddings, restaurants, workshops, charities, libraries, parties, festivals, you name it! I never do a gig (often referred by her) that someone doesn’t tell me a story about her loving contribution to their hospital stay or family wedding.

    She’s created a couple of CD’s, bought a house and sent her daughter to college.

    Her secret? She cleverly cultivates all of her gifts, shares them joyfully, drives a lot and works her guts out.

    #87353
    barbara-brundage
    Participant

    Yes, Julieanne, these sound very much like the histories of many of my friends from Eastman. I was far from the most talented/able student there, but I’ve been been very fortunate to have been a harpist during the good years. Even in the 80’s you couldn’t get a gig playing ‘Misty” down at the Holiday Inn if you were a bassoonist.

    Diane, I don’t follow the logic that lots of Music Majors must mean lots of jobs. There have been hundreds of thriving career fields that got wiped out over the years by changes in society/technology, and not just in the 20th/21st centuries.

    Yes, some people will thrive as musicians in the new order. Those who are clever and canny about marketing themselves and using the amazing new tools available now. (I know one harpist who makes an amazing income by sheer self marketing of his CDs.) But on the whole, there’s no question that live music is not very valued in our current society, and that the guerdon is likely to go to the best promoters rather than the best musicians.

    I’ve been amazed at how quickly it’s gone from, “My mom thinks I’m crazy, but I really want a harp at my wedding,” to “My mom says I have to have a harp at my wedding.” That’s not a good sign for the future.

    #87354
    diane-michaels
    Spectator

    I wrote an elaborate explination earlier today, so in depth that I believe I stumbled upon a way to turn used harp strings into fuel, but as I hit send, my internet connection failed, and so, if I had any wisdom to share, I’ve probably lost much of it.

    #87355
    diane-michaels
    Spectator

    Some corrections to my text would have helped – I was hoping to be able to post it without losing it, so I didn’t proof, chosing to get rid of it as soon as posible.

    #87356
    unknown-user
    Participant

    One thing that may be worth clarifying from my last post… I was
    attempting to describe various levels of artistic contribution but didn’t clearly define them.

    1. Those who have the capacity distinguish themselves internationally
    and fuction as a model for other performing artists in their
    generation. (calling this world class professionals)

    2. Those who have the capacity to distinguish themselves nationally and
    are leaders and mentors for developing artists, and for whom working
    towards an international contribution is a reasonable career goal.
    (calling this second tier professionals)

    3. Those who distinguish themselves locally, within the larger
    metropolitan areas and/or within some geographic range, and for whom
    working towards a national contribution is a reasonable career goal.
    (calling this third tier professionals)

    Those whose contribution is limited to their immediate locale also
    contribute a great and valuable gift, filling a social function that
    aids in the appreciation of the arts. These people often give others
    their first experiences in music. These individuals have often not
    invested as much time/money/energy into the development of their skill.

    The arts serve culture on different levels. The local sharing of gifts
    is in many ways the bread and butter, and traditionally was the haven
    of “folk” music (music for and by the common people). Sometimes
    classical music now also serves a community music function when it
    fills social roles in service playing, music appreciation, and
    recreational lessons. The arts also serve culture when the finest and
    best are valued and cultivated by our most uniquely gifted artists.
    These people speak for the people, expressing the ideals, fears, and
    hope of a given age. The community musician is not in much danger
    in our society because there will always be local functions that
    require music. It is the high level artist whose survival is most at
    risk. What is happening is that many artists are trying to fill the
    community functions, but are in competition with the community level
    musician. There is resulting frustration because there just isn’t a
    desire for what the artist can uniquely offer. Their level of expertise
    is just not considered necessary for the task, and often isn’t. It is
    often socially preferred to select performers based on their social
    role in the community, or the lowest possible fee. The artist’s
    contribution is equally important, but it’s function is more on an
    almost spiritual or philosophical level, and provides meaning in a way
    that most people benefit from but may not perceive or fully understand.

    It is almost as though our society is experiencing a role reversal. Pop
    musicians communicate in a folk-level form of expression
    with simple formal structures, themes regarding personal and everyday
    life, varying levels of skill accepted, etc. However, their performance
    setting and function is that of the classical musicians in former
    societies – individuals whose lives are set apart for the sole purpose
    of expressive communication. Although much of their time is focused on
    marketing, so their craft is not developed as traditional classical art
    has always been. Also, instead of the wealth being concentrated into
    the creation of marvelous instruments capable of tremendous expressive
    resonance, (jewel studded Burmese Harp, elaborate temple gongs,
    Steinway grands, etc) the money is displayed in the wearing of jewels,
    expensive cars and other non-musical expression of material items used
    in everyday life. It is the glorification of the ordinary, of
    mediocrity. Everything is backwards and upsidedown. It may be necessary
    for high level artists to infiltrate the pop world raising its
    standards. I really don’t know what is going to become of all of it.

    I do agree with the ideal of using music to heal and nurture people.
    Artists can actually contribute uniquely in this regard because poor
    musicality will never be as beneficial as a deeply
    expressive performance with technical ease. For example when someone
    plays out of tune, it creates a lot of anxiety, especially for
    sensitive
    ears. I even wonder if the agitated resonances are not that great even
    for people who are “tone deaf”. Stiff and choppy phrasing is not
    soothing. Poor performances are just not
    going to help someone who is ill and needs relief from chronic pain,
    anxiety, or needs to relax and sleep. Although, complex pieces are
    generally not going to assist in this endeavor, so the ideal is simple,
    clear music that is flawlessly and expressively played. So this task
    does not require a virtuoso, but someone who can play artistically.

    When performance becomes too focused on the adulation of the
    individual, some of the empathetic and more deeply meaningful aspects
    of artistic communication suffers. I am personally working towards
    contributing as a hospital volunteer harpist and working with students
    with special needs, many of whom are extremely bright and gifted
    musically, but need assistance negotiating their way around their
    obstacles.

    #87357
    carl-swanson
    Participant

    Julieanne-

    #87358
    Richard Shapiro
    Participant

    The most important aspect of life is to enjoy it. I am a pianist doubling on harp.

    I always made and still make a good living performing on keyboard.

    I majored in accounting. Worked a year at it, and hated it. Prepared taxes etc.

    I did this because my parents and friends told me many times that I will starve as a musician. Well that is a bunch of…… A word of advice till those of you who want to major in music. Do it, Dont waste your time doing something just for money. If you are good the money will come. But you have to be the best or try to be, at whatever you do. And that means giving 200 percent to practicing,

    and being able to perform in any given situation.

    #87359
    unknown-user
    Participant

    Boy, you make me think twice about getting a doctorate. One problem those people may have had was staying in school so long, if they went straight through. There are a lot of people drawn to music who are actually not very musical. Though they do well enough with school, why should they really expect to be the ones to get some good position? At some point it has to be about talent and artistry, I should hope. Some have great concentration, drive and competitiveness, and end up in plum orchestra positions. A lot has to do with personality type. I am not the agressive type to promote myself to an obnoxious degree, apparently, and I don’t have limitless energy to run around either, nor are my looks going to do it anymore, either. And when they might have, I didn’t stoop to using them to get ahead. Pride and dignity are important things to maintain, however costly.

    So, once again, we need to stop complaining and take action. One of you harpists who is good in business, who understands management and promotion needs to open an agency who will

    #87360
    unknown-user
    Participant

    Very good comments everyone. 🙂 I’m glad Carl pointed out the
    complexities of success that go beyond talent alone. Success requires
    funding. This is true. Life simply does not offer everyone an even
    playing field. Learning to look beyond personal success to the larger
    contribution music makes in the world, we can learn to appreciate the
    success of others as part of our own. This can give us that
    morale boost to move forward ourselves. Sometimes in highly competitive
    environments, one person’s success is another’s failure. Perhaps this
    is based on the competitive sports model. Since the arts are aesthetic,
    one beauty can add to another, not detract. To me it is like seeing a
    sunrise reflected on a lake – the beauty of the water enhances the
    colors in the sky. Even if life does not offer us the chance to succeed
    to our full potential we can still experience those who have in the
    same way we see this sky, we can still be the lake to reflect the
    beauty they
    offer over
    all the world. It is a philosophy based on the “whole being greater
    than the sum of its parts”.

    I appreciate Saul’s idea of having musicians with talent for marketing
    and arts management working to contribute to the success of other
    musicians.
    When I am struggling the most to have my artistic voice heard is the
    very time it is most satisfying to be able to assist another artist’s
    voice. That is one reason I became a harpist in the first place – to
    offer my playing to artists who have created works that need to be
    heard. This cooperative professionalism should be taught, perhaps
    already is in some schools, during the university/conservatory training
    years.

    What is most important for artists is to have a plan to insure they
    have income to survive on, even if that means developing a second area
    of professionalism. Even some of the greatest contributors in history
    worked as clerks, or other odd jobs during part of their lives –
    Einstein, Tchaikovsky, to name a few. Being a classically trained
    artist in today’s society is a challenge not unlike climbing Mt.
    Everest. It requires cooperative survival strategies. Knowing what to
    bring and what to leave behind is essential to survive it. This does
    not mean one should not attempt to climb.

    #87361
    Diane Patenaude
    Participant

    A late reply, as I am just reading this thread.

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