How to play four finger chords evenly

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    Sarah on #230603

    Any tips/exercises to help play four finger chords evenly please?


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    Tacye on #230628

    Can you play all six 2 fingered combinations evenly (1+2, 1+3 … 3+4) and all four 3 finger combinations? If not, those would be useful exercises.


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    Biagio on #230636

    If you are looking for practice try Salzado exercises – do them VERY SLOWLY.


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    Saul Davis Zlatkovski on #230638

    There isn’t so much of a separate technique for doing different things on the harp, but having your fingers all work the same way all the time, so it is consistent, controlled, coordinated and even.


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    carl-swanson on #230652

    I don’t know what level harp player you are. But the real solution to even and independent finger movement, for anything you want to play is etudes. Work through a set of etudes with a teacher and all of your technical problems will disappear. You might look at my Bochsa Revisited, which is a reinterpretation of his 40 Easy Etudes, op. 318. They are wonderful etudes and fun to play. My edition gives both hands an equal workout.


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    Sarah on #230695

    Thank you for all the comments/suggestions. I will try them out!


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    Sarah on #230696

    Carl-Swanson, I have a Grossi etudes book which I’m sure is a useful book to work through, but not my favourite tbh! Would you say there’s benefit in using your suggested book instead of Grossi?


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    carl-swanson on #230704

    Sarah- If you go to my web site, http://www.swansonharp.com then click on the ‘store’, then click on the Bochsa Revisited, you can see a sampling of the etudes and etude variations that are in the book. What you will see are two things. 1) A rich and extensive variety of patterns, which is what you are looking for in a set of etudes, and 2) that both hands get a technical workout on all of the patterns involved. The etudes are short, only 2 pages long. They work on the pattern for that etude in a variety of ways, to help you build muscle memory for that pattern. I don’t know if you play pedal or lever harp, but there is a separate edition for each. If you work your way through the 20 etudes in that book, I guarantee you will build a solid and even technique for that level of playing.


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    charles-nix on #230710

    Sarah: Grossi and Bochsa revisited are different. Grossi is more a method with instruction and exercises. Lots of repetition; little musical interest. The Pozzoli etudes that are usually published with it in the back are more musically interesting. The two work with each other in parallel. About halfway through the Grossi section, there is a note to start working in the Pozzoli section in parallel. Some of the Pozzoli etudes (studies) are interesting and rewarding; others less so, and more like exercises.

    Bochsa Revisited (or any other of the Bochsa sets of etudes) are _much_ more interesting to play, while still concentrating on one technical aspect. They are also more advanced than anything in Grossi/Pozzoli.

    So it depends on what level you are playing. I look forward to being able to really dive in to the Bochsa, but I’m not quite there yet. Carl’s edition of the Bochsa is _much_ better than the original. (And I’m hoping he has enough interest in the first half to warrant finishing and publishing the second volume!)


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    Jerusha Amado on #230800

    I have the first volume of Carl’s edition of the Bochsa etudes and would very much love to have the second volume from him!


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    carl-swanson on #230806

    Let me think about that some. It was SO MUCH WORK doing those two volumes (one for pedal harp, the other for lever harp). I’m finishing up my second edition for Carl Fischer Music for this year (the first one, Two Masterpieces for solo harp by Gabriel Fauré, which came out in June), and I’m kind of exhausted at the moment, and still not done with the second one, which I’m hoping will be released by the end of this year. It’s a collection of 10 pieces by Marcel Tournier(You heard it here FIRST!!).


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    Sarah on #230809

    Carl-Ive ordered a copy of your Bochsa etudes. Thanks for your help


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    Veronika on #230810

    Carl, is the Tournier going to be arranged for lever harp, by any chance?


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    Gretchen Cover on #230815

    Carl, how exciting you are publishing a Tournier compilation. Any new music or are these already published pieces? Any other hints as to the content?


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    carl-swanson on #230817

    Gretchen and Veronika,

    First, this volume is not for lever harp. But it has crossed my mind to try to find some Tournier that is playable on lever harp. I already found one, and it’s a pretty major piece that is completely playable on lever harp with no changes!

    I adore Tournier’s music. But the big problem for many harpists is that it is not notated the way it is actually played. He uses enharmonic spellings a lot. A# for B♭. Things like that, and he uses it a lot. Often it is not clear which hand plays what. The result is that there is a lot of initial layout work when a harpist wants to learn one of his pieces. So this collection prints the pieces EXACTLY the way they are played. There should be virtually no marking up, figuring out at all in order to play them.

    The 10 pieces I chose for this represent a variety of textures, a variety of levels of difficulty, and a variety of moods. I think you will really love all of them. I’m waiting right now for the second proofs. I’m hoping that it may be released sometime in November or December.

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