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  • #75652

    In the back of my mind, this thread has been reminding me of the movie and novel, “The Loved One”, about the funeral industry, in which the woman running a funeral parlor is named Miss Thanatogenous.

    #75653
    David Ice
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    The DVD of The Loved One is available at Amazon.com for only $5.79.

    #75654

    “CRANBERRY SAUCE!!!!!!!!!!”

    Briggsie

    #75655
    michael-rockowitz
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    Hi to all,
    There’s an interesting side effect in this use of harp music for the dying.

    #206383
    Elettaria
    Member

    Ridiculously late reply here, but I came across this thread when searching for “therapy”.  Someone I know is interested in getting into harp therapy.  I think it would be a good fit for her in many ways, but the harp therapy programmes and materials cost a bomb, and I’ve had an encounter with someone selling one of these programmes which has me rather concerned.  I’ve seen other websites about harp therapy and such which are chock full of woo, and as someone said in this thread, are they just overcharging people who want to volunteer to play at hospices and hospitals?

    Could anyone tell me more about it?  Private message works fine, though I’m not sure if I’ll be notified of it so give me a prod if I seem to be ignoring you!

    Also if she does want to go ahead with harp, there’s a cherry County Kerry, full Truitts, going on eBay for £800.  Assuming it’s in good condition, is that worth going to visit?  She’s tried my floor harp, with me giving her some pointers and helping her learn a simple piece, and is enchanted so far.

    #206384

    I have played for infants in NICU wards (neo-natal intensive care). I have Reiki training, among other things, and am a trained musician with sensitivity. I understood that they should have music that would be good for their hearts, so I played the slow movement of the CPE Bach Sonata, which has a slow, steady pulse, and the strong theme, and the stimulation of ornaments, all of which I played quietly. It seemed perfect, and they all survived the experience.

    I don’t think Reiki training is even necessary if you are sensitive and sensible. You should be able to play well. The idea that non-harpists can somehow be trained to perform this task is, to me, offensive. The first harpist I know to do this is Emily Halpern Lewis, who is as highly trained a harpist as you can find. She pioneered this back in the 1980s.

    Indeed, it seems to me that certification programs have little value beyond producing income for the organizers, and sadly, it has possibly prevented real harpists who do not have certification from being able to do this blessed work. That is just wrong. Hospitals might require it now, I don’t know, but can only do so because those programs were created, and I doubt they paid much attention to the content of the programs. The idea that a harp therapist should even look at a patient’s medical chart, let alone read it, try to understand it, seems horrifying to me, and a total invasion of the patient’s privacy. I’ve probably said it before, but nothing has changed my mind on this.

    What a harpist does need is some counseling, because it is emotionally challenging to play for people who are ill or dying. Reiki helps in that, because it teaches you channeling healing while remaining personally disengaged. Reiki is easily available, if not locally, then online. I only recommend that, because the Usui school of Reiki is very simple at the first degree level, and very principled. One simply channels and nothing more.

    Maybe some certification programs have been designed with some substance, I think one I looked at included Reiki training, but turning this into an expensive program, and one that might even discriminate against actual harpists, is something we should all put down, I think.

    Something related more harpists could possibly do, though it can be a hard sell, is to play at funeral homes for viewings. Memorial services are, to me, quite difficult to do.

    #206388
    Biagio
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    Returning to the original topic:  leaving aside the question of certification for the moment, it is well known that certain timbres, frequencies, and modes induce certain emotions (depending on the culture, of course). Lower frequency tones with decernible overtones are more soothing than higher ones.  So a harp such as the Musicmakers Gothic would be a good one to choose for that.  It’s not so much a question of “how many strings” but of the lower range, and as Saul observed not even of the specific instrument.

    For any considering music therapy or thanatology, I would encourage them to watch the movie Departures, a Japanese film by Yojiro Takata scored by Joe Hisaishi and consider closely their emotional reaction (it does have subtitles).  Playing for the ill or dying can very stressful, so I think it wise to be sure that is something you want to do.  The theme (“Okuribito”), you will note, is on cello, but it is also lovely on harp.

    As for the ongoing controversy wrt to “music therapy training” – it is utterly unfathomable to me that anyone, musician or magician, would consider themselves qualified to perform in a medical facility without some basic to advanced training in health care protocols.

    How that is acquired is a different issue from whether or not it is necessary.  In the US at least, a facility could easily lose it’s license if it did not require this for anyone, volunteered or paid professional.

    Biagio

    #206393
    Elettaria
    Member

    Thank you both, that’s very helpful. She’s a home care worker, massage therapist, Reiki therapist, and already teaches sound meditation using singing bowls.  She plays the guitar and sings.  I wonder if playing the guitar at hospitals etc. might be a good thing for her to try, and to take up the harp as an end in itself if she wants to learn the harp, rather than with the object of plunging straight into harp therapy without having learned the instrument thoroughly first.  (I thought that sounded extremely odd as well.)  Then if she’s a skilled enough harpist in a few years and is still keen to try harp therapy, she can.  Different people learn at different speeds, and of course it depends very much on your musical experience.  I kept thinking of myself as a newbie when I had thirty years of piano and singing under my belt, studied music to university level, and a couple of solid years of harp study at school, so when I took it up again as an adult I was at the intermediate level.

    I get the feeling she’d still enjoy having a relatively portable harp, though.  The Musicmakers Gothic is no longer on their website, but importing always runs the cost up anyway.  I’m trying to think what’s recommended in the not-a-lap-harp-but-still-reasonably-portable range over here in the UK, and I think the Camac Bardic 27 is fairly popular.  The Silver Spear Camlad 27 is probably very lovely, but it costs half as much again.  Either of them are over her budget, I think.

    <span style=”font-size: 16px;”>Looking at the County Kerry, I know I’d miss the extra three notes with a 24 string, but then if you need the portability, it’s a lot smaller and lighter.  There’s also a black unlevered Harpsicle going for £400.  It’s one of the newer models, 36″ rather than 33″, so the four bass strings could be upgraded, which someone here (Biagio, was it you?) recommended.</span>

    The Clarsach Society rent out harps at £25 a month.  Two friends of mine have a harp they’re not using, which I borrowed for a few months for free to see if I wanted to get back into harp.  It’s 25 strings, really 24 as the bottom E is useless due to the big cracks on either side of the bottom of the soundbox, surprisingly big and heavy, quite a sweet tone but quiet, and I persevered with the levers (because I’m bonkers and leapt straight into wild lever-flipping for Bach) but they’re honestly rather dire.  It’s thought to be a Border harp, and I have heard allllll about the shenanigans with those.

    #206394
    Elettaria
    Member

    Oh, I know what the cheapest not-rubbish 27 string is, it’s the Morwenna Rose. Beech ply, from what I recall from chatting with the luthier. Cheap and cheerful, optional levers, and there’s an ex-rental one on Gumtree. What do people think of the look of those for a beginner? Would they be practical for taking around if need be, for someone without a car?

    Come to that, what’s up with this harp on eBay? Looks like a Stoney End Eve, heart cutout is upside down, suspiciously cheap, seller doesn’t know squat about it? Built from a kit or a knock-off, do you think? It should have one soundhole but has two, and something looks wrong through the bottom one.

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