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January 22, 2011 at 9:04 pm #148622

unknown-user
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know what “con raghezza” means? I tried looking it up in my music dictionary and then in an italian-english dictionary, but nothing turned up. 🙁

~Sam

January 22, 2011 at 9:09 pm #148623

barbara-brundage
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Are you sure it’s not a typo for “con larghezza”?

January 23, 2011 at 5:48 pm #148624

Saul Davis Zlatkovski
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Or con ragazzo ( with a begging tone?). What piece is it, what is the musical context?

January 23, 2011 at 5:52 pm #148625

Saul Davis Zlatkovski
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If the root is raggiare, it would mean “with radiance.”

That’s why I collected some old music dictionaries, because the recent ones are too limited, but I found that in an Italian dictionary, right after ragazzo.

January 23, 2011 at 6:25 pm #148626

Tacye
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Is the text clear enough that you are sure it isn’t vaghezza?

January 23, 2011 at 6:52 pm #148627

unknown-user
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It is very clearly “raghezza.” I suppose it could be a typo. :/

It’s in Grandjany’s Rhapsodie, page 7 line three; the part that has the melody in right hand harmonics and arpeggios in the left hand.

Sam

January 23, 2011 at 8:57 pm #148628

HBrock25
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Hi, I’m Italian and I think there’s a print error as “raghezza” doesn’t exist, “ragazzo” means boy and “raggiare” doesn’t exist but correct translation is “irradiare”, as I don’t have this sheet music (I’m a beginner with harp) I think you should ignore this word and play as you feel the music. I hope I’ve helped you (sorry if

January 23, 2011 at 9:15 pm #148629

nicky t.
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p.s. I just add that I’ve found

January 23, 2011 at 10:04 pm #148630

barbara-brundage
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Oh, I’d forgotten about that. Yes, I believe it’s from the lines in Purgatorio about

“e se natura produsse mai raghezza di co-
lori nelle varie parti del mondo, trovasi in quel luogo raccolto”

so I guess you would interpret it as “spiritually shining” or something like that for that passage.

January 24, 2011 at 2:26 am #148631

Saul Davis Zlatkovski
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Score another one for old dictionaries. So the piece refers to the Inferno as well as a hymn?

January 24, 2011 at 12:12 pm #148632

nicky t.
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Mmh, this is interesting but Dante wrote in an language which is not italian

January 24, 2011 at 12:26 pm #148633

nicky t.
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For Saul David Zlatkovsky – I suggest you do not use old dictionary as italian words roots are in latin and ancient greek not in old italian words, also google translator would be better. Hope this information is useful.

January 24, 2011 at 2:56 pm #148634

barbara-brundage
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No, it can’t be ‘con vaghezza’, not there.

January 24, 2011 at 2:58 pm #148635

barbara-brundage
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Oops, hit Post accidentally. It’s just that ‘con vaghezza’ makes no sense in that spot, and certainly Mr. Grandjany had no vaghezza at all there when he played it, so whatever it is, it’s almost certainly not that.

January 24, 2011 at 3:15 pm #148636

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I agree with you, Barbara. “larghezza” doesn’t really make sense either… the passage is not played slow and there’s already a separate tempo indication. I wonder what he meant…

~Sam
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