Ravel: Daphnis suite No. 2,  3rd Edition Nieweg/Westfall

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    MusikFind1 on #206550

    We just had a first rehearsal and discovered that the second harp is missing a bass clef three measures before 190 in the RH. Everything else looks good!
    Elizabeth Volpé Bligh, Principal Harp, Vancouver Symphony

    Clinton F Nieweg wrote: Comments for the Harp parts.
    The 3rd edition was created from the Ballet manuscript:
    One Measure before 184. Per the manuscript, the Db in harp 1 and Eb in harp 2 are correct on beat 2. Ravel used this to divide the chord and match the Violin 1 division in reverse.
    Same at 187 Harp 1 Bb | Harp 2 B nat.
    Same 198 Harp 1 Eb | Harp 2 Db in RH.
    Same 208 Harp 1 G nat. | Harp 2 G#.
    Same 217 measure 4 Harp 1 Cb | Harp 2 Db
    What to do with the ultra-high A before 206? Just fade away before you get to that non-existing string?

    One measure before 184 the harp II needs a reminder C nat. on beat 1 to cancel the previous C#.
    Check the notation of the glisses in both parts after 204. The down gliss ends on the same beat the up gliss starts. Some old parts do not have the correct notation.

    For concert performances, the off stage Piccolo and the off stage Eb Clarinet passages are cued in the orchestra parts.

    A score form percussion part is published to make it possible to use less than the 8 players Ravel specified. EMS252224
    https://www.emsmusic.com/product_p/emsg14536.htm

    In the absence of the rare Jeu de timbres à clavier (keyboard activated glockenspiel), it is suggested that the celesta player plays the Jeu de timbres part from rehearsal 216 to the end. Some of this passage can also be doubled on orchestra bells.

    The instrument (ca. $23,000.00) is shown at

    Keyboard Glockenspiel

    • This topic was modified 4 years, 1 month ago by MusikFind1. Reason: Format
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    MusikFind1 on #206633

    I have been notified that Harp parts published by Edwin F. Kalmus after 5 May 2017 have this engraving mistake corrected. Thanks to Elizabeth for the alert.
    Keep them coming.

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    Elizabeth Volpé Bligh on #206665

    <span style=”color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;”>We just discovered that the second harp is missing a bass clef in three bars before 190. Clinton has already forwarded this to Kalmus and it is being corrected.</span>

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    Saul Davis Zlatkovski on #207076

    If there is a 0-octave A, all the more reason harps should be made with that 48th string. You can tune a 0-octave G up a half-step without breaking the string, so if it is in g-sharp, you’ll have an a-natural. The Villa-Lobos Concerto also calls for 0-octave A.

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