Ornaments in F.J.Naderman

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    Mel Sandberg on #151168

    I grew up with the rule that in all music up to and including Schubert, ornaments or grace notes are to be played on the beat.

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    Saul Davis Zlatkovski on #151169

    I think you are on the right track. If you linger on the appoggiaturas, they may start to sound right. They are very expressive. The German edition calls these Sonatines. Are they called Sonates in the French edition? You are about right on the dates of ornamentation. Mostly, it is a question of style and function. Is it a grace note or an appoggiatura? Well, it depends on what is happening harmonically. If it makes no difference at all, it may be a grace note. They seem to be most common in triple-metre rondos. In a slow movement, they are almost certainly on the beat, taking their rhythmic value from the following note. You may not have heard them played that way before, but it should be right. I have a three-movement sonata by Naderman that clearly indicates the classical style of ornamentation, on the beat. In that third movement, I would play them on the beat and accent the dissonant upper note and give it a tenuto and diminuendo as it resolves on the third note.

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    antoine-malette-chenier on #151170

    I just played this sonatines some weeks ago, and I agree very much with the idea that they are long appogiaturas.

    However, I just listened to a recording by Catherine Michel, and in this particular 2nd movement of the 3rd Sonata, she plays the appogiaturas fast!

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    Saul Davis Zlatkovski on #151171

    Yes, but I don’t think it is very expressive that way.

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