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April 12, 2007 at 1:03 pm #86554
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ParticipantThe Orphic memouries sounds like a fascinating piece. And it sounded like a wonderful concert. And there is something truly wonderful about seeing an ensemble so connected, it is so very moving and I often do feel it is a mysterious bond! Of both the ensemble members but the audience too!
I feel ignorant as I have never heard of Heidi
April 13, 2007 at 3:14 pm #86555David Ice
MemberHi Julieanne,
“My understanding of the raising gesture is that it is dependent on context. “
My most surreal moment was watching Salzedo harpists at a harp competition raise while tuning.
April 13, 2007 at 3:26 pm #86556tony-morosco
Member+++While I’m not about to argue the validity of raising and Salzedo gestures and their effect on tone production, but PITCH?+++
April 13, 2007 at 3:43 pm #86557Evangeline Williams
ParticipantI think there are companies that rent harps for movie/theatre productions.
April 13, 2007 at 3:49 pm #86558Evangeline Williams
ParticipantTony, I am afraid you have got it all wrong!
April 13, 2007 at 4:33 pm #86559tony-morosco
Member+++The best flutes are beat up student models that look like they could give you tetnus!
April 14, 2007 at 1:56 am #86560unknown-user
ParticipantAs to the tuning and raising thing….yep I do that. But not 2 or 3 feet in the air above the neck of the harp – they must have “go go gadget arms” coz mine aren’t that long…..
It is mostly a habit, but you do try and strike the string quite quickly and firmly when tuning – get a clean and pure sound. If you strike each string differently, with different volume and at a different rate, yes, that will affect how the tuner picks up
April 14, 2007 at 3:48 am #86561Saul Davis Zlatkovski
ParticipantLucile Lawrence firmly stated that the hands should never go past the harp’s neck. Slightly in the first octave is unavoidable, but it should never be like an athlete or v for victory. That is not esthetic, that is tasteless.
April 14, 2007 at 6:38 am #86562David Ice
MemberHi Rosemary,
Your raising makes sense…but these students were making such a show out of it, and were raising like pom-pom girls.
April 14, 2007 at 3:00 pm #86563laura-smithburg-byrne
ParticipantDavid, what a bizarre sight that must have been.
April 14, 2007 at 4:07 pm #86564carl-swanson
ParticipantYou should take a look at that video of Betsy Morse playing the preludes from the Method for the Harp. The one where Lucile Lawrence explains each one first. I haven’t seen it in years, but my memory of it is that she throws both hands straight up over her head every time she raises. Sometimes she flings them straight out towards the column, but in both directions her arms end up absolutely straight(up or out).
April 14, 2007 at 8:00 pm #86565Saul Davis Zlatkovski
ParticipantI’m certain you are remembering that incorrectly, you should have re-viewed it first before casting any aspersions on it.
April 14, 2007 at 10:59 pm #86566unknown-user
ParticipantI would love to see that video, but the formatting of your videos in the US do not work in our video machines (boo hoo!). Sounds fascinating!
But well, how did it sound? I remember reading that Ms Lawrence ( I think it was in the Dewey Owens book about Salzedo) would get quite cross if
April 15, 2007 at 2:24 pm #86567David Ice
MemberWell, it certainly got them noticed…at least by me.
April 15, 2007 at 4:05 pm #86568laura-smithburg-byrne
ParticipantOh that we should all grow old gracefully and not perform in public with any physical limitations. I myself am having a hard time adjusting to changes in my eyesight and I am only in my 40’s.
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