June 2, 2010 at 3:09 am #70697william-weberParticipant
If I were looking for the best possible piano tuning meter I’d go with the Veritune. The Accu-Tuner produces a tuning from a mere three samples by making assumptions that are only valid in a fine instrument of large scale, whereas the Veritune measures the frequencies of all partials. of all strings while the tuning is in progress.June 2, 2010 at 5:20 am #70698leonard-limMember
I just bought the iStroboSoft on my iphone.June 2, 2010 at 12:51 pm #70699
…. that’s exactly correct. It picks up the overtones because any acoustic instrument is not “perfect”, meaning the overtones do not line up. If you tune it “perfect” with a tuner, the harp will sound dull as the overtones don’t line up. Thanks for bringing up this example why the harp should not be tuned totally with a tuner that is not “tempered” or “stretched” for that particular instrument…June 3, 2010 at 2:46 am #70700kathy-chanikParticipant
“shouldn’t use a tuner not stretched forJune 3, 2010 at 4:40 pm #70701
….. this just happens to be something that is my demon. At a WHC conference, I walked out of the Salzedo harp concert because the harps were so out of tune, and out of tune with each other….
I always tune my upper octaves a little sharp by ear, and the lower octaves a little flat.
I don’t believe in hell, so you’re not going to burn 🙂 ….. you play harp, so you’re going to heaven….June 3, 2010 at 5:49 pm #70702william-weberParticipant
A more exact measure for stretching an octave might be to tune the upper string to the harmonic of the lower string,June 4, 2010 at 2:15 am #70703kathy-chanikParticipant
But, William-if you tune to the harmonic of the lower note, then the octave won’t be stretched at all, will it?June 4, 2010 at 2:25 am #70704Sam KarlinskiMember
I believe William’s point is that by using the octave harmonic (which is the most important overtone) you’ll be compensating slightly because you’ll be able to line up the overtones of the higher string with those of the lower string, if I’m right.
I could be wrong though – this is not my field of expertise.
~SamJune 4, 2010 at 3:21 am #70705Saul Davis ZlatkovskiParticipant
If I use the harmonics to tune octaves, they are tuned pretty normally. I am getting great results with my Korg ca-20 with a clip-on pick-up. The only string it doesn’t get is the 7th octave C. But I mostly use the Orchestral Tuner, though the batteries don’t last as long. I don’t go more than 5 cents sharp or flat at the top and bottom. The harp sounds quite sweet tuned exactly, actually, like ice cream, and if I flatten the bass it sounds more like sour cream. I happen to love sour cream, but the tones are more focused on pitch.
My question is, does the order of tuning help the tuner hear better? Should I go in a circle of fifths in each octave, or tune one pitch in octaves? Going by scale is definitely the slowest.June 4, 2010 at 11:37 am #70706
” the octave harmonic (which is the most important overtone) “
…. this statement sums up everything. My ears hear the octave harmonics more than anything else on a harp.
Also, Kathy, I think saying this may make sense, that tuning the lower string slightly flat in relation to the octave overtone created with the string an octave above the string you are tuning.
OK… it’s my day off and I’m looking forward to memorizing some new music….. y’all have a great day….June 16, 2010 at 3:13 am #70707barbara-brundageParticipant
Just updating this: for anyone who has an iphone/ipod touch, I just got an email from Peterson that the iStrobosoft app is on special for .99 right now.June 16, 2010 at 2:34 pm #70708tony-moroscoMember
Thanks. Although I already have a tuner app I like for 99 cents I’m happy to add another. You can never have too many tuners.June 18, 2010 at 3:33 pm #70709
… just an update that I’ve discovered the iTick metronome app for my iPhone… for free! Wow, the world is changing quickly…December 5, 2011 at 12:34 pm #70710David IceParticipant
I have Cleartune on my android phone, and it works great.
My question:December 5, 2011 at 1:23 pm #70711Amber MParticipant
Korg CA-40 is fine with the pickup.
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