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Zen Sojourner.
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May 9, 2009 at 2:27 am #160140
Geri McQuillen
ParticipantDear Song Sparrow,
This was such a coincidence that I just had to tell you this.
August 28, 2009 at 4:06 pm #160141unknown-user
ParticipantThe posted contribution about cars and prestanda is one of the most sensible I have read this far on this thread that I stumbled into now in Aug 2009
I am a harp seller, running a small shop in Sweden (another reply is referring to our web page). The funny thing with the sometimes rude and infected debate about Pakis is that VERY FEW
August 28, 2009 at 9:55 pm #160142Zen Sojourner
ParticipantI have most definitely “met a Paki” (harp, one hopes) in real life.
August 29, 2009 at 2:17 am #160143michael-rockowitz
ParticipantZen,
What about Stellan Sagvik’s point that there are different harpmakers in Pakistan?
September 1, 2009 at 8:58 am #160144Zen Sojourner
ParticipantThere is only one line of
September 1, 2009 at 2:44 pm #160145Audrey Nickel
ParticipantLike Zen, I have also “met a few Pakistani harps.”
September 1, 2009 at 3:27 pm #160146william-weber
ParticipantMid-East will replace an obviously defective harp, even one purchased for below list from a discounter. Being a PHSO is not something they would accept as a defect.
The Mid-East Caitlin, when restrung, can be an adequate harp. Its deep soundbox gives it a deep resonance, and its Pleyel-type 7/5 courses mean no lever troubles.
The EMS Hailey has levers that seem to work. After restringing the tone
improved, but I still find it thin and nasal, and would expect no
better of the other EMS Roundbacks. I’m thinking of selling it locally and getting the Blevens Melody I really wanted.September 2, 2009 at 3:43 am #160147Zen Sojourner
Participant“I’m thinking of selling it locally and getting the Blevens Melody I really wanted.”
There ya go, just cut out the middleman (harp) and go for the Blevins or another quality harp to begin with, LOL!
As for restringing a PSHO, real harp strings are not cheap.
September 2, 2009 at 12:49 pm #160148william-weber
ParticipantThe Markwood strings for the Caitlin cost me about $103 IIRC. Laurie (Hill?) at Markwood Heavenly Strings seems to have experience with scaling strings for PHSOs because PakistanMeghan and PakistanHeather are listed on the website as standard string sets. Now she can offer PakistanCaitlin.
A little reaming was required to fit the wound tenor strings. If structural failure needs a couple of years, then I must admit the longevity experiment is incomplete. The Caitlin is the one I set down gently, on carpet, knowing how overstressed it is with all those strings. The Hailey OTOH feels like I could throw it against the wall (which is one way to get some sound out of it) without any harm done.
I think the Caitlin has a solid market niche because if it stays together a couple of years it will be a common gateway to the X-realm.
September 3, 2009 at 10:18 am #160149michael-rockowitz
ParticipantI clearly disagree with a few folks here.
September 3, 2009 at 6:11 pm #160150Geri McQuillen
ParticipantIs this the Never-Ending Thread?
September 3, 2009 at 6:29 pm #160151Tacye
ParticipantI believe that having this topic discussed serves a very useful purpose as one of the things I hold against these harps is that they are sometimes bought by people who believe they are buying a better instrument than is the case.
September 5, 2009 at 6:11 pm #160152Zen Sojourner
ParticipantAbsolutely.
September 5, 2009 at 11:53 pm #160153michael-rockowitz
ParticipantWe’ve kind of discussed this to death, possibly beyond death.
I agree with Zen and Tacye in a way – there is the danger that the beginner will be seduced by the carvings and looks of the inexpensive Pakistani harps into thinking they’re getting more harp than they really are.
September 6, 2009 at 12:17 am #160154unknown-user
ParticipantThanks for the comic relief. I have tried again and again to ask people not to beat this poor thread to death anymore and it just won't @#** go away. Please people, I so regret starting this thread now. Can we give it a rest. Thanks for everyone who originally posted for their advice. The irony is that I have little time for harp right now being very busy in a country-rock group as keyboardist and backup and some lead vocals (plus a little fiddle for good measure. PS, yeah Michael, don't ask about Internet starter fiddles).
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