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  • #75786
    Suzie Q
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    So, I got accepted into a youth symphony orchestra for high school students. I have a semi-grand Salvi Daphne pedal harp…weighs about 81.5 lbs. We use the Harp Porter Extended Base dolly.

    Here are my questions:
    Do you always use all three pieces of transport covers to move your harp? (I’ll be moving mine each week, and I think its a pain to put all that on, fold up my stand/bench, etc. Is there a piece I can leave off without risk of damaging the instrument?)
    On the dolly, my harp twists when coming up our stairs. (We have two stairs leading to our door, and to get in, we pull the harp up the stairs.) But the column generally twists to the left. Does your do that? I always feel the harp will slide off. I don’t usually pull up the stairs….I’m not strong enough to do that on my own. But even with the extended base, I hate moving it. Then again, we’ve only moved the instrument about 6 times total.
    Finally, about the dolly. Now, I have help to move the instrument, but I soon won’t. Because of the extended base, someone needs to tilt the harp completely forward and the other person slides the base under the instrument. Is there a different way to get the harp on the extended base without lifting it?

    Thanks a bunch! I’m sure it will get easier moving my instrument once we do it more, but still…..

    #75787

    I have a Camac concert grand with a transport cover. It is just two-piece because the covers made for them have a column guard built into the transport cover. However, do you have to remove the column cover everytime? Why not just leave it on. Then you would have one less piece of equipment to move…..I don’t know if that’s feasible, but it seems it would work.

    If you are planning on continuing on harp you must learn how to move it by yourself eventually. There are tiny little women who are able to do this. I know of 2 in particular who do this. (I am almost 6′ tall, but I keep myself in shape so that I can maneuver the instrument….it isn’t easy, is it?) Here’s the thing….your harp shouldn’t be twisting on the dolly. Are you strapping it on securely? Are you moving it without tipping the dolly from side to side? When I go up stairs, I simply get the dolly in my hand and gently roll up a step at a time….going down you have to take a lot of the weight as you ease it down a step. But it should never move on the dolly if you have it secured. I also ALWAYS have one hand on the neck of the harp just to make sure the harp isn’t going anywhere. I know a lady who never straps hers on the dolly, has been moving harps for 30 years and has never had an accident, but she knows how to move the dolly.

    As for getting the dolly under the harp, I move the dolly as close to the back of the base as I can get it, lean the harp forward with my left hand and slide the platform of the dolly under the base. I can’t understand why you would need two people to do that. Is the base so long on that extended base dolly that you can’t somehow position yourself to move it while leaning the harp forward? If so, I would consider a different dolly perhaps.

    You absolutely must be able to transport your harp alone. It’s your gig….it’s your responsibility. Sure there will be times when there are full flights of stairs where it might be nice to have someone pick up one end of the harp while you take the other, but some people even manage to dolly up flights of stairs regularly.

    Briggsie

    #75788
    barbara-brundage
    Participant

    I never use the base cover myself, not even for my gold harps, since it does make them very slippery on the carrier.

    #75789
    Suzie Q
    Participant

    Does this cause damage to the bottom of the harp and the feet? The possibility of scratches is the only thing I’m worried about. My harp teacher rarely uses the base cover for short trips herself, but from the way she loads he harp into her van, some marks appear on the feet of the harp.
    Maybe the base cover is causing the harp to twist on its dolly.

    I also do want to be able to completely manage my harp on my own. Once I get it securely on the dolly, I’ll just need to work on being able to lift it up the stairs and out of car on my own.

    Thank you!

    #75790
    Suzie Q
    Participant

    Also, I see harps in the pictures advertising the dollies without their base covers. I wonder if it was purposely shown like that? I’ll definitely be using the outer and column cover (however, leaving the column cover on may be an option) when I move the instrument short distances. This could work for orchestra rehearsals.

    Thanks again!

    #75791
    barbara-brundage
    Participant

    Yes, you have to be careful. I do wrap up the base once it’s in the car, but I regard the occasional scratch as preferable to the likelihood (high, in my case) of the harp skidding of the dolly altogether.

    Ultimately, you can have a working harp or a pristine harp, no matter how careful you are. If you gig on it, it will pick up the occasional ding or scratch. That’s just life.

    #75792
    barbara-brundage
    Participant

    …skidding off the dolly or of losing control when laying the harp down as it attempts to skate away on that slick base cover surface, I meant to say.

    #75793
    Tacye
    Participant

    Many base covers do seem to be a design which could be improved upon- non slip materials for instance- the design I like best of the ones I have seen has a tighter fit, and fastens to the main cover for added security.

    #75794
    barbara-brundage
    Participant

    >Some harpists carry a doormat sized piece of carpet to put under the harp feet when they rest on the ground in loading and unloading.

    Yes, I keep a washable bath rug in the car and stand the harp on that when unloading and loading it. Then I can throw it in the washer when it gets too grotty.

    #75795
    Suzie Q
    Participant

    Thanks everyone for your responses. Maybe I will try moving the harp without the base cover one time. Using a rug mat seems like a good option to prevent scratches when doing that. And I can also see about leaving the column cover on sometimes, during rehearsals perhaps. That will also cut down on the amount of covering I need to store.
    I’m sure I’ll get better at transporting with time and soon may be able to do it completely on my own.

    Hopefully my instrument will quit twisting on its dolly as well. This only ever happens on stairs, usually on when being brought up the stairs. The dolly is pulled up with two people, but I don’t think its tipping. I’ll need to investigate more into why this is happening if the harps generally don’t move around on the dollies.

    #75796
    Suzie Q
    Participant

    The base of this particular dolly is rather large. It is supposed to hold the entire bottom of the harp, including the front feet. If the entire thing is to get on it, how am I to push the instrument completely forward without it tipping too far? I’m not quite comfortable with it now, because I might not be ready to control both harp and dolly but it may be possible to do. I think my mom got the extended base dolly for me because she thought it would be more stable and safer for the harp. 🙂

    #75797

    Lean the harp forward, scoot the dolly under as far as you can. Pull the harp the rest of the way. Does you harp have little wheels on the feet? Mine does.

    I would never move my harp without the base cover. My base cover isn’t slick though.

    Briggs

    #75798
    Suzie Q
    Participant

    Well, its good to see a variety of opinions on how to move your harp. I’ll probably end up doing something that’s convenient for me, but also safe for the instrument. Its only a year old, so I don’t want to damage it.

    Thanks!

    #75799
    barbara-low
    Participant

    Maybe your harp is twisting on the stairs because the weight is being shifted. Try bringing the dolly wheels evenly up over the lip of the stairs. If the harp is tilting left, then a force on the right side is making it move that way.

    When I have to wheel over a curb or stairs I make sure I approach with the harp perpendicular to it. If someone is helping me, they have to lift the harp without causing it to tilt. Don’t go too quickly, and be prepared should the harp start to shift.

    #75800
    Suzie Q
    Participant

    Thanks Barbara. Its possible that that is what is happening.

    And thank you everyone for your great help!

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