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Liam M.
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February 11, 2009 at 3:01 am #161230
Anna Lea
MemberI have been taking lessons a little over 2 1/2 years, could not read music and am a senior.
February 11, 2009 at 6:18 am #161231Audrey Nickel
ParticipantIt’s going to vary a lot Anna, and there are going to be a lot of factors:
1) The difficulty of the tune
2) The difficulty of the arrangement
3) How much time you have to devote to practice
4) How involved you are with the tune (it’s a lot easier to learn a tune or an arrangement that you love!)
5) Your own dexterity
6) Your own, innate, ability to learn and retain music
These are going to vary from harper to harper, and from circumstance to circumstance.
February 11, 2009 at 2:13 pm #161232Karen Johns
ParticipantI agree with Audrey- it depends on several factors. On average it takes me about a week of one-hour practices to get the memorizing down, then a few more days to smooth it all out. Here is my basic
February 11, 2009 at 4:20 pm #161233tony-morosco
ParticipantYeah, it really depends on what it is. Debussy? A very long time. One of Sylvia Woods arrangements? A week or two.
When I learn a jazz piece it actually takes me the longest. I learn the basic piece, melody and basic accompaniment. But then I take a while to study the structure. The chord progression and the main intervals used and to what effect. I really need to get that under my skin and it takes a while. Then I have to play around with it for a while to get some ideas on which to build counter-melodies and to provide a basis to improvise over. The whole dissecting and analysing part takes longer than just learning the head and chords even though the actual reading of the music is often easier than reading a even one of Sylvia Woods ‘easy’ arrangements.
My advice is to not judge yourself by other people in these things. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. Some people can sit down and play almost perfectly from the written page the first time though (and I admit I envy that ability), but they may have difficulty with memorization or problems playing by ear. Others can improvise an accompaniment for another player without even knowing ahead of time the structure of the piece, but can’t play from sheet music to save their lives.
So don’t worry. Just work on the things you feel you need work on and in the process you will discover your strengths as well. We all have problems in one area or another, and we all shine in others.
February 11, 2009 at 4:26 pm #161234kay-lister
MemberAnna,
I have found that there is some music that I don’t master while actually working on that particular piece.
February 11, 2009 at 5:11 pm #161235sherry-lenox
ParticipantI absolutely agree with Kay 100% on this. I posted a similar experience to this in “Beginning In the Middle” yesterday.
I sometimes prefer working on harder pieces a week or so more than my teacher wants me to work on them too, and she usually goes along with me on that, because she knows that I have a particular goal in mind with the piece.
I am a retired certified music teacher who took up the harp two years ago this coming April.
February 13, 2009 at 12:53 am #161236WJMinDC@comcast.net
ParticipantAnna,
Our harp playing colleagues have provided excellent counsel and encouragement.
February 14, 2009 at 9:45 pm #161237rod-c
ParticipantAnna:
I, too, have been taking lessons for just over two years, and I have noticed how long it takes to polish a piece.
February 16, 2009 at 12:28 pm #161238Seoid OC
ParticipantHow long it takes to learn a piece depends on how hard the piece is and how polished I want it to be.
February 16, 2009 at 2:37 pm #161239Anna Lea
MemberThanks so very much to all of you for taking time to respond to my question.
February 20, 2009 at 4:32 pm #161240unknown-user
ParticipantThat is not a matter of time or hours – there are songs that are pretty easy to learn and you will take just a few days to learn them and others you wont know them after years. It is very hard to tell – it depends how you learn, how concentrated and how many songs at the same time …
There is no answer for that sorry 🙂February 20, 2009 at 10:55 pm #161241Liam M
ParticipantHow long? Well Twinkle Twinkle Little Star is still escaping me after a year…..
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