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September 24, 2007 at 1:26 am #85110
Saul Davis Zlatkovski
ParticipantI have consulted with a French musician, and she has advised me that animez does not exactly mean accelerando, but to become more alive, animated from within, more spirited, which could manifest in more than one way, a crescendo or accelerando or both, or simply more vigor and feeling.
I wanted to mention that Lucile Lawrence had the same quote from Ravel regarding the Sonatine, and what’s more, she was there at the time, I believe, or another time, and played the Introduction and Allegro for him. She had several letters from him that were in the house at Camden. What has become of them, I don’t know yet. I hope they have made their way to the archives at BYU.
September 29, 2007 at 11:19 pm #85111john Doe
ParticipantI have one wife who I love and she will be my only wife.
October 2, 2007 at 10:54 pm #85112Saul Davis Zlatkovski
ParticipantAnd her name is Jane?
June 14, 2010 at 2:38 pm #85113Alison
ParticipantCarl, I am just grappling with this passage using Renie’s transcription, having learnt it once and then forgotten it I am finding it difficult to memorise the second time around. I would certainly like an easier version. Who published Pierre Jamet’s version, if it were published ?; I have a score and now regard this as an 8 measure passage.
June 14, 2010 at 6:14 pm #85114carl-swanson
ParticipantAlison- I just sent you the Jamet version.
June 15, 2010 at 3:00 pm #85115barbara kraichy
ParticipantThe Southwest Florida Chapter AHS Harp Ensemble is going to be performing Debussy Danses as accompaniment. Robbin Gordon Cartier will be soloist at the ensemble’s
June 25, 2010 at 4:49 pm #85116paul-wren
ParticipantThere are so many recordings of this out there, I am just wanting an opinion from anyone that cares to respond: What do you think the best recording of this piece
July 6, 2010 at 8:26 pm #85117Alison
ParticipantSaul, I have worked through your solution too and I think that if you played Asharp instead of Bflat (ignoring Renie’s Bflat pedal marking), the RH hand would
July 6, 2010 at 8:28 pm #85118Alison
ParticipantI have always loved Zabeleta’s.
July 7, 2010 at 5:15 pm #85119Saul Davis Zlatkovski
ParticipantOne of the reasons for Salzedo’s version is clarity. Other reasons are security, and having to learn the piece in a short amount of time. It’s a practical solution, anyway. It will be a while before I can try your suggestions, Alison.
July 9, 2010 at 10:56 am #85120Alison
ParticipantI see what you mean now, I have just received the Salzedo version in the post from Cathy White so that throws light on the whole thread of this discussion !
July 10, 2010 at 12:53 am #85121Saul Davis Zlatkovski
ParticipantMy version comes from the original for chromatic harp, Miss Lawrence’s is based on the Renie edition, and so is Salzedo’s version. Considering the fast tempo and that it is a place too easy to have it fall apart, his version does fairly well ensure an effective and exciting performance. Miss Lawrence had a composer make his own version to see what he would come up with, and it was identical with Salzedo’s version.
October 22, 2015 at 2:07 pm #190956Victoria
ParticipantI knoew it has been a very long time since this topic is active, but can anyone tell me where to get the American Harp Journal edition with Carl’s article on those 6 measures? I am learning this piece and would love to read it. Can anyone also tell me where to get the Salzedo edition? Thank you very much in advance.
October 23, 2015 at 4:40 pm #190965Saul Davis Zlatkovski
ParticipantYou have to get the Salzedo editing from a student of one of his students, who has it in red pencil. His editings in red pencil are handed down from one generation to another, an oral tradition. It will be published eventually, and my editing should be available within a year or so. There is also another version of the difficult passage from Lucile Lawrence.
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