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  • #82518

    Sylvia, in Folk Harp Journal, issue 131, Spring/Summer 2006, pages 104, 105, and 106, there is a very interesting article by Christina Cotruvo, “Harp-Abilities for the Visually Impaired. Among other points she makes in the article, she writes …”I am always glad to help anyone with visual disabilities to read music and play keyboards and harp.” She offers her e-mail as xina@no-c-notes.com. She mentions that the best referral resource for blind musicians is The National Resource Center for Blind Musicians at http://www.blindmusicstudent.org, and adds

    #82519
    angelica-vianna
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    My only concern about blind players is that harps make our fingers skin thick and it might affect on the feeling, loosing a bit of the tact they need to read brile. Anyone has any insite about that?

    #82520
    Sylvia
    Participant

    Gosh.

    #82521
    Sylvia
    Participant

    I’m on my soap box because I have taught braille music, and I’m a transcriber.

    #82522
    carl-swanson
    Participant

    Sylvia- Probably the best approach would be to carefully choose music that keeps the fingers connected to the strings as much as possible. Like Bach.

    #82523
    unknown-user
    Participant

    What an interesting discussion!

    What do you think, what are the reasons for the harp being one of the main musical instruments taught for the blind musicians? And this since the ancient Egypt, I think. Some people with partly or total blindness once told me, that because of their hearing abilities are so sensitive, some “ordinary” sounds can also

    #82524
    Sylvia
    Participant

    I haven’t looked over here in a while, and I was surprised to see more comments.

    #82525
    john-strand
    Participant

    Interesting subject that I have indeed thought about from time to time over the years – I have an eye muscle imbalance which means that it is impossible for me to jump my eyes back and forth between a music stand and the strings – it takes a while for my eyes to lock onto whatever I am looking at and it also means I have no depth perception – fortunately for me, the muscles will lock into place when I focus on something down and to the right – just exactly where the strings are – and frankly, if it weren’t for that I would probably not be enjoying playing the harp – therefore, I do memorize everything I play and I have wondered what I might do to continue playing if I happened to lose my sight –
    It seems to me I read once that the blind Irish harpers of old either tied knots in the centers of some strings or used an extra thick string where we are used to colored strings –
    Back in the early 60’s Jean Langlais the blind French organist came to play a recital at the college – all the organ students got to visit and watch his rehearsal which I understand was pretty much standard wherever he went – and remember, he would play on totally different consoles at the different recitals – he would be seated on the bench and fix himself dead center and then his hands would explore the banks of stops wherever they were, the rocker tablets and piston buttons and the number of manuals – he would pull each stop individually, listen to a couple notes played on it and then go on – when he was finished, he had a map in his head of where everything was and what it did – all stored in muscle memory – when he played and wanted to change an individual stop, he reached to the top of the stop jamb and felt his way down to the one he wanted and then pulled it, but it all happend faster than it took you to read this sentence – same for changing pistons – he was famous for the French method of improvisation and he also played the standard concert organ literature with all the bravura pieces – I think he was the very definition of “muscle memory” which is all about the body knowing where it is in a given space – the same idea that lets you touch your index fingers together with your eyes closed or eat with a fork and not be stabbing yourself all the time –
    The book is called “The Body has a Mind of It’s Own” by Sandra and Matthew Blakeslee –
    A few years back I loaned a pedal harp to a blind guitar player friend of mine – he was fascinated with the sound – he did want a marker for the middle c so we put a small piece of masking tape on the soundboard right next to the string – he enjoyed messing with it for about six months playing some of his own made up melodys but for him the guitar was his main love – (he did have a seeing eye dog and watching that was amazing) – Interestingly enough, he never learned Braille, but he has all the extra gadgets to work a computer –

    Well, this all gets into the techniques of memorization and oral, aural, and kinesthetic learning styles – to quote Mr. Spock, “Fascinating”

    #82526

    Hi There

    I am currently taking a Blind student through grade 3 and have taught her from day 1, she has perfect pitch and is possibly the easiest of my students to teach!

    I use lots of call and echo learning techniques with her along with her putting her hand over mine to feel the technique.

    Good Luck!

    #82527
    Liam M
    Participant

    Turlough O’Carolan: Irish Harper

    Turlough O’Carolan (Toirdhealbhach Ó Cearbhalláin)
    was born in 1670 near Nobber, County Meath and died March 25, 1738 at
    the home of his patron Mrs. MacDermott Roe in Alderford, County
    Roscommon. He was one of the last Irish harpers who composed and a
    significant number of his works survive in single line melody.
    Carolan’s fame was not due to his skill with the harp (having started
    at 18), but to his gift for composition and verse.

    Carolan’s father, John, was
    either a farmer or a blacksmith. (An iron founder according to
    Britannica, subsistence farmer according to New Grove Dictionary of
    Music and Musicians). John Carolan moved his family to Ballyfarnon when
    Carolan was fourteen to take employment with the MacDermott Roe family.
    Mrs. MacDermott befriended the boy and gave him an education. Around
    the age of 18 Carolan was blinded by smallpox.

    #82528
    Sylvia
    Participant

    One thing to note here is that previously sighted blind people learn entirely differenty (I think) from people who have been blind

    #82529
    Alison
    Participant

    I have a blind friend who is a musician and a sound recordist.

    #82530
    mia-strayer
    Participant

    i have almost no sight in the right eye & just enough sigh in my left eye to see my harp strings i’ve got to have my sheet music almost life sized to me I’m 4 feet tall & both my harps are taller than me i memorized my music it takes me forever to learn a new song because my teacher & i have to break the song up into small patterns once i’ve got it than we move on until i’ve got it memorized

    #82531
    Sylvia
    Participant

    If your condition is progressive, I hope you are learning literary braille. The braille music code is a valuable resource for visually impaired musicians. As for learning by ear, that will limit you.

    This is the music braille discussion place:

    Menvi-discuss@menvi.org

    The most famous learn-by-ear harpist was Harpo Marx.

    #82532
    mia-strayer
    Participant

    Unfortunately I cannot read braille
    We tried it when I was younger but with CP it’s a challenge
    So we recorded on my iPad and I listen to it
    That’s how I learned right now
    But unfortunately my eyes are getting weaker
    The older I get the weaker they are

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