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May 3, 2014 at 8:59 pm #78360
kareem-hadee
ParticipantHello Everyone,
My name is Kareem and I’m just getting started playing the Harp! I’m renting a Ravenna 34 to learn on, and ultimately I think I’ll want to play a pedal harp down the road. In the meantime, I’m deciding on which harp I would like to buy. I know that it will take at least 6-8weeks to have a harp made, so the ravenna 34 I feel is an excellent harp to get started. I live in Tacoma, Washington state and I’ve been to Dusty Strings in downtown Seattle. They have excellent harps, but I feel that the harpsicle harps would most likely be a better “fit” for me.
I would like to know how much smaller the Grand Harpsicle harp is compared to the Ravenna 34? I have not been able to get my hands on any harpsicle harps in my neck of the woods. I like the grand harpsicle because it’s light and electric-acoustic, and plays in all keys (very much like the ravenna). I was thinking about getting this harp in terms of portability, but I’m not sure if the fullsicle would be a better harp to haul around than the grand harpsicle.
There are tons of videos and info on the fullsicle harp, but there is hardly any info on the grand harpsicle that I’ve seen. The Ravenna 34 barely fit in the front seat of my car, and I couldn’t see out passenger side mirror when I did get the harp in my car. I’m not sure that the grand harpsicle would be any easier to haul which is why I appreciate any feedback from people who have owned a grand harpsicle.Thanks,
-KareemMay 4, 2014 at 5:30 am #78361Anonymous
InactiveHello,
The harpsicle website shows the Grand Harpsicle’s dimensions to be 45″x28″x6″ (height length width, respectively). The Dusty Strings website shows the Ravenna 34 height to be 49″, and the soundboard to be 14″ at its widest. I think it’s safe to assume that the Grand Harpsicle would fit more easily into your car than the Ravenna 34. And the Fullsicle would be even smaller.
I own a Fullsicle. It was a great little harp for starting out. It’s got a nice sound (albeit slightly twangy), but the string tension is very low. I rarely play it now, but when I do, it feels like i’m playing on floss compared to my pedal harp. The price for the Fullsicle was great, though, and I love that it allowed me to get started with the harp. It’s also very portable – I’ve walked around with it, brought it on buses, planes, ridden my bike with it, and it fits really easily into my car. I don’t think the Grand Fullsicle is as portable, though.
I haven’t played a Dusty Strings before, so someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but they seem to be higher quality harps. It looks like the Grand Harpsicle costs roughly the same as a Ravenna 34, and they can put in a pickup if the electro-acoustic aspect is important to you (at extra cost). Even if it barely fits in your car, it still fits. If I were in your shoes, I would most likely go for the Dusty Strings. Another perk there is that you get to support one of your local businesses. 🙂 But then again, if a smaller, lighter harp is what you need, perhaps the Grand Harpsicle is the best choice for you. I wonder what other people will have to say. Best of luck in your decision!
May 4, 2014 at 9:41 am #78362Tacye
ParticipantAs Ben touches upon, many harpists have more than one instrument, such as one for serious practice and another for portability. Dusty Strings have a new model, the Boulevard, which is ibased on the Ravenna, but particularly designed to have a similar stringing and playing technique to pedal harps.
Does your car have a back seat or trunk the harp could go on? Otherwise, could you push the seat back as far as it will go to use the footwell too. Perhaps putting the harp upside down (but not resting on the levers).
May 9, 2014 at 5:16 pm #78363kareem-hadee
ParticipantHello Ben and Tacye;
Thanks for all your insights. I’m clearly talking in terms of portability at this point. I know that the harp I play on “At Home” will be a lot larger than the harp I take with me on the road. I am thinking in terms of ultimately playing on a pedal harp, but for now I feel comfortable with the size (and range) of the Grand Harpsicle harp. I’m renting a ravenna 34 right now and it’s just too big to haul around. I know the grand harpsicle weighs only 12 lbs and I enjoy the range (and base notes) of a 33/34-string harp. The fullsicle harp is probably the best choice for me in terms of portability. I just wish that someone who has owned a grand harpsicle would be able to comment.
May 10, 2014 at 11:40 am #78364susan-ash
ParticipantMy first harp was a Dusty Strings Revenna. But wanting to get another, smaller harp I purchased a Harpsicle, and while it is a fun harp and is manufactured by a great company, the string spacing is ever so slightly closer and the tension was simply too light for me to enjoy playing. However I read that they now have a Special Edition Fullsicle which is described as having a better [string] feel.
As Ben stated you can add a pick-up to a Dusty Strings (and just about any harp) if that is a major purchasing point.August 22, 2015 at 9:57 am #189840irisnevins
ParticipantThis is old I see… but I have both harps…Ravenna and the Grand. The Ravenna 34 is a richer fuller sound. It is also much heavier than the Grand Harpsicle. The Grand is best sounding when amplified. It is very soft in volume. I love both harps…. but if I could have only one, I would stick with the Ravenna. The Grand is great to have as a secondary harp when you don’t feel like lugging so much. The string spacing is a bit narrower than the Ravenna too. I use my Grand for going out to teach once a week at an Irish center… I have the full bass range and don’t have to lug much. For Amplified gigs it is wonderful, and it has enough volume to take to a small to mid sized Irish session.
Another great harp…and I build this over and over for students, and have one of my own, is the 29 string Musicmakers Smartwood Harp. It sort of splits the difference between a 34 and a 26 Fullsicle. It is available very very reasonably in kit form (easy if you are an experienced woodworker and finisher, and can string and lever yourself…if not…please have help the first time!) or they can send it ready to play. It his slim strings, a lighter tension than the Ravenna and has a rich loud sound. It weighs 14 – 15 pounds depending on how many levers. The case they sell with it, is padded but not really heavy like a Ravenna case. I LOVE this harp…. but also at times miss the full bass range down to C. This goes to G. Still, it is not hard to adapt and transpose up a bit for the left hand. Easier than on a 26 string. That said…I also have a Fullsicle, and we use Harpsicles, Flatsicles to teach beginners. In an ideal world, I’d have a 34 string…and the Ravenna is a lovely harp for a great price, and a 29 and a 26 lapharp. Toss in a Grand Harpsicle for the times you want full bass range and don’t want to lug much. I would however… since most people get their harps one at a time… start with a moderate weight, great sounding floor harp, Like the Ravenna 34, it’s just good for everything. It was my first harp, and now that I build my own, I have other “better” harps….but will always love the Ravenna. It holds its own too, soundwise, compared to many high end harps…sounds better than many of them. It’s a bargain and a wonderful harp. I love them all though! -
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