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February 7, 2014 at 11:32 am #78019
rozelle-sunkel
ParticipantI’m looking to buy a pedal harp. Which harp maker fits the following criteria? (Lyon & Healy, Salvi, Camac, etc.)
• low string tension
• lots of space in the upper register (for my big hands)
• warm and powerful sound
• clear and bright upper register sound, but not soft feeble
At the moment I’m playing an 80 year old Russian pedal harp. The string tension is very high amd getting sound out of the upper register is difficult.
I’m about 5″7 if that’s important.
I would appreciate some help, seeing as I live in South Africa and there are basically no harps to try out.
From the videos I’ve seen, I’m starting to lean towards a Camac, but audio and video can be deceiving!February 7, 2014 at 11:54 am #78020Sylvia
ParticipantHave you tried Ingrid? Maybe she can help you.
http://www.harps.co.za/February 7, 2014 at 12:22 pm #78021rozelle-sunkel
ParticipantYes, I’ve been to Ingrid. She showed me three harps to try out, but none of them had the sound I was looking for. There was no aha! moment. Just asking for a few opinions 🙂
February 7, 2014 at 1:52 pm #78022Gretchen Cover
ParticipantRozelle,
I saw from the link above that you must live in South Africa. I would base a big part of my harp decision on how you get your harp serviced. Camac and Salvi are based in Europe so that may narrow your search.
I bought a Salvi Apollo harp two years ago and love it. It did not need a break-in period and was very playable right out of the box. The Salvi rep said that is true of the Apollo model – not just my harp. My major criteria for a new harp was one that was easy to play and had a full sound that carries well. The sound is very even through all the registers. It is a great all-purpose harp and looks very striking on a stage. I would only buy one that has the “new concept” soundboard. That just came out about two years ago. I am the same height as you.
If you go to youtube, there are a number of clips with Catrin Finch playing her Apollo.There may be other clips if you use a key word search “apollo harp.” I’m sure you will get a lot of opinions from others who love their harps, as well. It will get down to personal choice and what is available for you. I hope you find a harp soon that you like.
February 7, 2014 at 2:32 pm #78023Sonya Wiley
MemberI curious about more room in the upper register; i thought they were all about the same; i think i have large hands too and just have to adjust; but i am very new to pedal harps.
February 7, 2014 at 4:18 pm #78024paul-knoke
ParticipantYou can also try restringing your Russian harp with “Lever Harp Gauge” strings. It will be easier to play under lower tension, and most harps’ sound opens up a bit when the soundboard isn’t under so much pressure.
February 7, 2014 at 6:22 pm #78025rozelle-sunkel
ParticipantThat’s interesting, Paul. What is the sound like with lever harp gauge strings? Won’t it have a softer and less powerful sound? I’d love to know! Do you only restring the upper register, or all of them?
February 7, 2014 at 7:48 pm #78026Gretchen Cover
ParticipantWere harps of that age strung with lighter (lever harp guage) to begin with? Will the change in tension do anything to the harp? Maybe someone with an older harp knows the answers. Interesting suggestion to restring and certainly less expensive than a new harp. I would certainly try it if it won’t do anything to your harp.
February 7, 2014 at 11:22 pm #78027marcia-farkas
ParticipantI agree with Paul, one of my harps is a 101 year old lyon and healy style 18 and sounds wonderful with the lower gauge strings.
February 7, 2014 at 11:39 pm #78028Sid Humphreys
ParticipantI’ve played on quite a few Camacs and have noticed that some of them have more spacing in the top. This was great as I didn’t scape my hands playing in the upper register.
February 8, 2014 at 1:13 am #78029wilma-hatcher
ParticipantMy Camac has more space in the upper registers than a Salvi. I love the Camac Athena. I bought mine from the original owner and it has a beautiful, rich sound.
February 8, 2014 at 1:22 am #78030paul-knoke
ParticipantHarps can’t be damaged by lowering the tension on them. They can be strung as light as you like, until the strings become so slack that the tone is unsatisfactory. Switching from “Standard Concert Gauge” to “Lever Harp Gauge” usually gives a more brilliant tone, with noticeably more sustain in the upper registers, and more volume overall as the soundboard is able to move more freely. It also can make harmonics easier and louder, and drastically reduces string breakage.
If the harp is an 80 year old Russian instrument, chances are good it was modeled after either an early Lyon & Healy or a French Erard Gothic. The early L & Hs were designed for the strings schedule devised by Erard in 1829. This string schedule is very close to the Bow Brand “Lever Harp Gauge”. The later French Erards were designed for strings about two note’s worth heavier than that, but still lighter than modern strings.
So, by stringing with a lighter string set, the harp will be closer to its original design. It should be easier to play and last longer, as well as producing the kind of tone Rozelle is looking for.
February 8, 2014 at 5:11 am #78031john-strand
ParticipantHi – I agree with Paul and the others who recommended switching to lever gauge strings – I’ve talked about restringing my concert grand with all lever gauge strings elsewhere on the forum – and about two years later still very happy with the change – I have nylon lever gauge on the top 3 octaves and lever gut on 4th and 5th – I recently changed the first and second octave on my other harp to lever gauge and like the improvement very much – you don’t mention whether your harp is straight board or extended, but either way I feel an 80 year old harp would benefit from lighter tension strings – you can order light gauge concert length wires from Vermont strings –
As to more room in the upper register you might think in terms of putting in a 1/4″ shim in the joint between the neck and body next time you have a full regulation and change strings or have a harp technician do it for you – both mine have shims installed by David Williams and it makes a great deal of difference – Carl Swanson has talked about this before on the forum –
let us know how it all plays out –
John
February 8, 2014 at 6:42 am #78032rozelle-sunkel
ParticipantI’m interested in what lever harp gauge strings would sound like on a new pedal harp that is designed for higher tension? Won’t it have a more celtic “tinny” sound? I’m looking to buy a new harp, seeing as I’m only renting the Russian harp.
February 8, 2014 at 4:48 pm #78033paul-knoke
ParticipantIt’s hard to predict how lower-tension strings would work with a new harp because many new harps have thicker soundboards than were ever used in the past. It would be interesting to experiment with some “test strings” on different registers of the harp to get an idea of how it would feel and sound.
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